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Less than 48 hours before the City of Saline was set to introduce candidates for city manager to the residents at an open house and during interviews, the process went sideways at Monday's city council meeting.
The process was already off to a strange start when the city failed to publicize its finalists until a full week after the search committee selected its finalists. It was also odd to see a final four without acting city manager Elle Cole, who'd become very popular in sectors of the community and was an applicant for the top job.
The finalists, Todd Saums, Commissioner of Water Distribution for Toledo, Jason Smith, City Manager for Belleville, Daniel Swallow, City Manager of Tecumseh, and Michael Tremblay, who was most recently US Army Garrison Commander in South Korea, will be at city hall to meet the public from 12-3:30 p.m., Wednesday. City council's interview process begins at 4 p.m. Wednesday. The interviews will be live on Youtube.
At the outset of Monday's council meeting, Councillor Dean Girbach asked for a motion to be added to the agenda. Girbach asked the city's hiring committee to report to the city council to address "potential bias" and/or a "tainted hiring" process. He wanted the situation reviewed by the city's legal counsel. Girbach made the motion, seconded by Councillor Janet Dillon.
Girbach was surprised the hiring committee did not name Cole as one of the finalists. Girbach said the committee's decision to eliminate Cole based on "performance concerns" in a meeting without Cole present to defend herself was in violation of Cole's employee labor rights. Girbach said it was his understanding the committee went into closed session to discuss Cole. Girbach said going into closed session puts the council in jeopardy. Councillor Janet Dillon said the committee does not have the authority to go into closed session and may have met in violation of Open Meetings Act.
Girbach suggested that Cole's investigations into possible crimes, loss of city assets, or dereliction of duty may have led to retaliation.
Girbach then said he wished he'd known about the relationships between two of the finalists and council members on the hiring committee. Swallows lives five houses away from Mayor Marl on Russell Street. Tremblay knows Councillor Nicole Rice.
"Transparency is a key issue that we have to consider with any candidates, moving forward.
Girbach also asked why the mayor was using his personal email to communicate with Double Haul Solutions, the consultant helping the city with the hiring.
"When the mayor was using his personal email and not using the city email account it raises concerns that there were discussions and things that may have occurred outside of our city servers that cannot be verified or brought into into discussion for this issue," Girbach said.
Girbach requested that any emails Marl sent from his private account be sent to council to review.
Marl, Rice and Councillor Chuck Lesch are the three members of council on the hiring committee. The three delivered debukes to Girbach's allegations.
Marl said he was unaware there was a city manager finalist who lived five doors down from his residence.
"I have no knowledge of any finalists living five doors down from me or anywhere in my vicinity. I'm not aware that I've met or been introduced to any of the finalists that have been recommended by the hiring committee," Marl said.
Marl said he thought the process was fair, thoughtful and thorough.
"I don't think much of what you've expressed tonight is accurate, quite frankly," Marl said.
He said the committee did go into closed session to protected the confidentiality of candidates who requested descretion.
"I have a lot of confidence and faith in the process, and I think it's critically important that council have confidence and faith in the process, especially processes that they establish committees that they appoint and consultants that they retain," Marl said. "I saw no ethical issues whatsoever - no issues of Integrity with any members of our hiring committee. I think they did a fair and reasonable job."
Marl called Girbach's motion inappropriate and performative.
Rice said there were multiple people on the hiring committee who worked with candidates or knew them. She said most of the committee had similar finalists.
Rice said she only had "second-hand" knowledge of Tremblay.
"I used my knowledge of what that person's resume stood out and said to explain to my colleagues in that room what all of those activities meant," Rice said. "We were put in there to be the experts and to make decisions that are best for this community, and that's what we did."
Lesch said he was a scientist by trade and that the committee took a scientific approach.
"I feel like the committee took the facts that we had. We analyzed them. We did have a robust discussion," Lesch said. "We pretty much had the same top candidates and we came to a compromise on the last one or two. I thought it was a very thoughtful process."
Councillor Jenn Harmount said she thought Cole should have been given the opportunity to interview for the job.
"I would think the incumbent should always have a chance for the final set of interviews," she said. "That's a really hard thing for me. I do trust there was a process and there was data, I would just like to understand more about the weighting taken into consideration, along with the number of years of consideration of experience."
Cole has only been the acting city manager since Colleen O'Toole suddenly resigned in a shroud of secrecy in January. Two of the finalists are not city managers at all, however.
Rice said Harmount's question was fair.
"That's a fair question. We are here to ask questions of our colleagues. We are not here to accuse people and put a motion behind things that are accusatory," Rice said, voice breaking with emotion.
Councillor Jack Ceo said he supported the integrity of the hiring committee.
Councillor Janet Dillon made her point about discussing the performance of an internal candidate who was not in the room when the discussion was happening.
"We have a duty to understand, was there a line crossed?" Dillon asked. "If there was something that was done that may border on illegal, we need to address this."
Marl fired back at any shots at him or members of the committee.
"Disagreeing with the process is one thing. I think impugning the integrity and character of your colleagues is quite another. I think with all due respect, I think it's almost beyond contempt," Marl said.
Girbach reiterated that Cole did not give up labor rights when she applied for the job. He said he will continue to ask the city attorney to investigate that," Girbach said. "You screwed up, Mayor."
"No, I don't think I did," Marl replied. "You are entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts."
Girbach, Dillon and Harmount voted in favor of Girbach's motion. Marl, Lesch, Rice and Ceo voted against it.
Only weeks ago, Acting City Manager Cole seemed like a rising star in the city - even before O'Toole resigned as manager. Cole was hired as treasurer in 2022 and added Deputy City Manager to her role in 2024. When O'Toole resigned, however, Cole applied for the job. Sarah Finch replaced her as Treasurer. One source said between Finch and, potentially, the new city manager, Cole would no longer have a position in the city.
The city hiring process doesn't pass the sniff test. The schools have issues too. This is looking systemic.
What is going on at city hall? Like the schools, we need independent investigations to reveal the facts and the truths and a review of the activities being conducted publicly and behind closed door. Impropriety seems to be real but we won’t know without an independent investigation.
Correction: “Tremblay DOES NOT know Rice. Rice simply knows of Tremblay and the incredible work he’s done in service to his country.” My husband served with him more than 10 years ago.
It’s unfortunate that these unsubstantiated claims are putting a damper on what will ultimately end up a thorough and successful search for a new City Manager.
This is suspiciously reminiscent of the fire board incident. Attempting to get rid of or block officials that question the current administration or point out its shortcomings is childish and irresponsible. Elle Cole is a dedicated and highly qualified public servant who deserves the top three at bare minimum. She would be amazing in the role. This reeks of bias. Thank you Dillon and Girbach for speaking up!
More shady business at city hall and again Marl in the thick of it. Thought he’d learn better after what he tried to do to the fire chief…guess not. The mayor’s ego is showing.
Ms. Cole is being railroaded and this is obviously a CYA move by Marl.
Elle, If I were you I would tender my resignation and hire a good lawyer because this whole thing stinks.
Kudos to Mr Girbach for standing up! About time
All we see is unbacked innuendo of impropriety. You may have, from your perspective, good reason to support Cole. That does not mean she may not have had issues in the position that would legitimately raise concern or that she simply does not rise to the level of being one of the best candidates for the position.
Very disappointed and saddened that Elle Cole is not a finalist for this position. As far as I can tell she has been a valuable asset to this community. In her, we have a proven asset, with one of the other finalists, who knows, maybe and most likely not. City manager is 'the' most important position in this city. We have continually accepted less in this position and it's hurting this city. Seems to be a merry go round of, hire someone, works for a while, then it doesn't and for some secret reason they are let go or 'resign' and the process starts again. Sadly I am losing hope that we can ever hire a quality city manager. I used to be a supporter of this administration but not allowing Elle to be a finalist really hurts right now.
This is all becoming so very tiring. Transparency seems to be the buzz word of the day and unfounded innuendo and allegation the MO, not just in Saline, without any practical consideration to the topic at hand.
-Personnel decisions are not made in public. Expect your employer to pull you and all of your coworkers into a room for discussions on relative performance, employee ranking, promotions, performance reviews and ratings, etc.? Of course not. Want to have zero applicants in Saline? Implement a public facing vetting process where the relative merits, past performance, feedback from former/current employers, ultimate rationale for selecting one candidate over another, etc. is openly discussed. No one, including those criticizing the process, would be open to that were they an applicant.
- Someone living five doors away from the Mayor? We lived plenty of places where we had no intimate relationship with or knowledge of our neighbors five doors down. If geography is all you have, you have nothing. Perhaps we should start looking at the neighbors of Council members and start making assumptions and allegations about how their proximity may have influenced the Council member's decisions/votes. To make an issue of that publicly smells of ulterior motives. Nonsense innuendo.
-Tie to a committee member? Understand from another article that was someone's spouse having worked at the same organization as an applicant over ten years ago. If they even worked on things together at some point (which is unclear), the most that would come out of that is perhaps some additional personal insight regarding how that individual functioned at that time, if that.
-As for Cole, the jump to her not being included having something to do with investigations she is involved in, investigations at least some of which (and possibly all) have been publicly supported by the Mayor, seems to be a leap and yet another attempt to drive conspiracy theories and division. Just more unfounded allegation stirring the pot of discord. Perhaps the matters at hand, if there even were any, were not part of the discussion or were already discussed with her. In addition, she certainly should not be present for discussions about other candidates. Have a concern? Take it to the appropriate folks to look into and then and only then, if an issue is identified, speak about it publicly. Nice tactic though. Raise an unresearched and unsupported allegation, as the others have been, about something you know darn well the folks you are accusing would not be able to address publicly or to provide a basis to refute, well before anyone has actually looked into it to bring actual facts to bear.
-The time period between selecting and announcing the finalists? Having some involvement in such matters, this is likely as simple as notifying the candidates, confirming their interest, and allowing them time to then notify whomever they may need to (current employers, etc.) before having their interest, publicized. You tell your current employer when you apply for a job you may not be a finalist for? Want them to hear about it through a newspaper when you become a finalist?
Questions are fair. Unfounded allegations/accusations and childish bully tactics are divisive and never productive - in fact quite the contrary - and have no place in any forum. Saline is not the only local area suffering from this type of irresponsible behavior and it must stop if we are to move forward. Wonder why Saline (and other nearby areas) is having trouble? THIS is why, exactly THIS. Work together people, stop the unfounded jabs, start acting like responsible adults.
Wow. Someone feels that Saline taxpayers have no 1st amendment rights and unless we agree with the mayor and his questionable processes that we are being “childish “ by speaking our opinions.
Really? You go on and on with condescending rhetoric that sounds just like the mayor 🧐.
We all have the right and obligation to question anything we see that doesn’t seem right. And shame on you for implying we don’t!
Citizens can question anything they want to. Our comments are around Council members who should be held to a higher standard than simply lobbing unsupported allegations. There are methods for handling such things and getting to actual facts without smearing individuals who likely did nothing wrong and are working to serve the City. And seriously, having a problem that a candidate lives five doors down!?! Ridiculous. As we said in the post, questions are fair, unfounded allegations and innuendo, not so much. Far too much of that going on these days and it is high time folks, in fact, begin acting like respectful adults and handle things in a more appropriate and professional manner than just slinging mud.
Respect is something that is earned. And your continued, condescending hyperbole is contradicting. Enough
"There are methods for handling such things and getting to actual facts without smearing individuals who likely did nothing wrong and are working to serve the City."
Ali, your comment that the individuals likely did nothing wrong is based around as much fact as the smearing you speak of. Unless we know, we can't say for sure. I don't think in private business your reviews, hiring processes, etc should be handled in front of your coworkers. In a public position where the citizens of the city are paying your wages through their tax dollars this is not only appropriate, but necessary. I'm sorry you are sick of the word transparency, but I think it is very important when our annual property taxes have reached 5 digits. I want to know how my money is being spent. I hope that everyone who pays their taxes also wants to know.
You assume that some people that are shocked and upset by this decision do not have knowledge of how city government operates. Or that they don’t know any of the people in question personally.
Mr. Girbach raised legitimate concerns that were taken personally. This is something we’ve seen before- at the fire board meetings. It is is an alarming similar situation that raises questions of systemic impropriety and retribution. Transparency is “thrown around “ because there is a distinct LACK of it.
I will come right out and say that I am not a fan of our Mayor. I have voted against him including writing in a candidate in the last election. There are just too many things that appear shady. I have been busy raising my kids and working long hours for the last 22 years. My youngest is finishing High School this week and I have taken a part time job in the school system. I am going to start attending city council meetings, trying to understand more about these things I read in the Saline Post. I really think Saline has the potential to be a great city and we are being held back by people with personal agendas.